WHEN GENOCIDE BECAME "FAMINE" : IRELAND, 1845 - 1850

#425: Chris Burke - Re:  

 Well said Chris. The man is an asshole troll.

#8: Mike McC -  

 read this book....Galway Bay by Mary Pat Kelly

This is a good cause, it's about time that our own irish historians stopped brushing over this period of history, watering it down and sanitising it in a manner that gives the impression of an inferiority complex. Read Tim Pat Coogans book on this subject and you will get an idea of what this petition is about. Foreign historians dont have any difficulty describing it as systematic genocide, why should our own irish historians?

#401: The Canadian-American -  

 There is nothing idiotic (a bit patronising that) about wanting the truth, nobody wants to whip up bad racial sentiments. This petition is about telling the truth, in the same way the Jews, Armenians and others have asked for the truth.  Some people would prefer the sanitised version because they dont like to be shown in a bad light.  Look at it this way any time the Americans make a movie taking the credit for something the British originated, the British go ape shit over it especially in the press and media, i think you'll agree this petition is a lot more moderate and is only looking for a more truthful version of history.

Great cause, people should study the irish so called famine and learn from it, Capitalists should be reminded constantly of the misdeeds they have committed against people. The people were treated like animals, disposable asset, that were of no value to the British establishment.

I Read Tim Pat Coogans book, to me it illustrates everything that is wrong with the Human Race. Power is held by a ruling elite who hide behind the banner of Nationalism; while secretly balancing the books, just like the British establishment did during the time of the Famine and during Cromwells time. At the other end of the scale you have the ordinary joes totally leaderless and directionless or at least with no effective leadership.  Its the same the world over how many conflicts or colonial enterprises were really about money; Use the missionaries as camouflage and then steal the natives land and natural assets after, pretend your waging a religious war in Ireland then steal land, dispossess, murder, kill and sell people into slavery, eg Cromwell the great liberator who did deals with plantation owners selling them human cargo. Its the same struggle since time immemorial and we mugs still put up with it and do nothing to break the cycle. I'm amazed. the irish dont hate us english more when you look at past history, its a credit to their intelligence and common sense that they recognise the real enemy the british establishment the reptillian creeps who preach fake morality on one hand and hold a calculator in the other.  If it was the other way round we'd be going on about it forever in our own inimitable sanctimonious manner. The biggest mistake the Irish made during the famine was not having a massive revolt millions of people what were the govt going to do?Tom Barry the famous guerilla leader once said he had no time for the famine generation because not one of them reached for a pike, a bit harsh i agree but at the same time he had a point.

#437: Lorenzo - Re:  The Canadian/American has a point its ancient history. What do you expect people to do about it, even if they do rewrite history, who's going to give shit anyway. People are not interested in what happened yesterday if you asked a group of kids what Auschwitz was they'd probably tell you it was s football team in the Bundasliga

I'm reading about there was not a "Great Famine" in Ireland, it was really  genocide by the British. I had family that came to America because of the "Famine". Now I tell  my family the truth about the way our people in West Ireland was treated.  I had heard stories about the way the people of West Ireland were treated  by the British. I had often wondered why these people  would starve just because of the potato shortage. Now I know the answer. I would recommend  the book "The Famine Plot" by Tim Pat Coogan . This book is one that once you start reading it you find it hard to put down. I have a better understanding about  what really happened to these great people.