Hands Off Hartlebury Common
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dave |
#1131 here is the link steve2011-07-24 02:54 |
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john |
#1134 try this martin2011-07-24 03:26 |
Gail Jones |
#11362011-07-24 16:09When is the meeting Steve and where? Gail |
Steve McCarron |
#1137 Re: meeting2011-07-24 16:54This wednesday, 7pm Send me an E-mail gail, I will tell you more. steve@stevemccarron.co.uk
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#11392011-07-25 11:27Worcester County Council seems to be busy spending taxpayers money or rather, wasting taxpayers money, by fencing land that they have NO right to fence. Isn't this common land? Worcester County Council have NO TITLE to this land and shouldn't be enclosing it. Perhaps local taxpayers should be asking HOW much of their contributions have been spent so far and WHY? |
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#1141 Subject2011-07-25 12:40In the Medieval period, and possibly earlier, the owner of common land was the lord of the manor in which the common lay. In the case of Hartlebury the Bishops of Worcester. Ownership was then passed on to his legal descendant down the centuries. In 1968 it passed to the County Council and in 1979 was designated a Local Nature Reserve and it has SSSI status. |
Steve McCarron |
#1142 ownership2011-07-25 14:01#1141: Choose a nickname - Subject You must be aware also that all land sold or purchased will have a title of deeds showing such owners and ownerships. If their is such a document for Hartlebury Common, it will be a first. Also, the church has no record of such a transaction, we have checked. What has been shown by WCC is a conveyencing document, not title deeds! We have already tried to see the so called deeds, (FOI) Fiona Morgan was adamant, that she new where they were, at the land registry. They have yet to surface though, even in court. After stating he had no expertise in these matters, the judge at our hearing accepted this erouneous document as proof of ownership. Steve McCarron |
Domski |
#1143 Re:2011-07-25 14:16Exactly what damage was the fencing itself doing? Surely one benefit of it is to make it safer for people to walk their dogs without fear of them straying onto the road. How much has the vandalism by Steve and his cronies cost? |
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#1144 Re: ownership2011-07-25 14:21#1142: Steve McCarron - ownership So the judge is wrong? He made a decision and one u couldn't appeal against so why don't you leave it? You won't get anywhere and just wasting your own and others time. |
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#1145 Re: Re: ownership2011-07-25 14:26One thing we can be sure of here is that wcc owned and own fencing on that land that you and your lot have damaged and in that case you should be prosecuted. You already have an order on you to refrain from doing that which you say you agreed to. So if you adhere to this why can't you accept what the judge said? |
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#1146 Re: ownership2011-07-25 14:30#1142: Steve McCarron - ownership And isn't it possible the deeds could have been mislaid? Just because they couldn't present the deeds but presented other conveyancing papers it doesn't mean they don't own it. Have you kept receipts for everything you own or have bought? I haven't but doesn't mean I don't own them. |
Steve McCarron |
#1147 Re: Re: Re: ownership2011-07-25 14:35judge was not qualified, he said so himself |
Steve McCarron |
#1148 Re: Re: ownership2011-07-25 14:41You do not, mislay deeds, Fiona Morgan would have said IF this was the case. She very definateley was told to tell us that they were at the land registry. Three times we asked, three times she insisted, land registry. Wrong, if the council had such a thing, it would be at county hall. |
Steve McCarron |
#1149 Re: Re:2011-07-25 14:47How did people with dogs cope before? Its a SSSI, you should not drive posts into the ground. It is an illegal impediment. Enclosure is illegal. The County Council applied to the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs for consent under section 38 of the Commons Act 2006 to carry out restricted works on Hartlebury Common (52) and then gave legal notice that any objections should be made to the Planning Inspectorate by 9 January 2009 (53). The Open Space Society is not happy. By statute they are notified of all applications for works on common land submitted to the Secretary of State for Environment, and they have certainly objected to this one. Their local representative, Edgar Powell, doesn't think the council can lawfully erect fencing there in any case (54):
Not only that, they do not have planning permission for the cattle race, or the car park.
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Domski |
#1150 Re: Re: Re: ownership2011-07-25 14:48#1148: Steve McCarron - Re: Re: ownership So either the council owns the common or nobody does. If the latter is the case the destruction of the fences in my opinion was still an act of vandalism. If you feel that the work being done shoudln't be then take them to court. Simples. |
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